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24 May 2011

Breaking the Mold

Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman | www.pillsburylaw.com

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Pillsbury is a dynamic full-service law firm with market-leading strengths in the energy, financial services, real estate and technology sectors. They employ over 800 lawyers who serve clients throughout the US and internationally, including in the key financial markets of New York, London, Tokyo and Shanghai and who have been rewarded by recognition in 2008 Best Lawyers in America list, in volumes of the 2007 Legal 500 as well as in the 2007 PLC Which Lawyer? annual yearbook. Always forward thinking as well as professionally adept, the law firm’s environmental practice has been named “One to Watch” according a 2007 survey of top Southern California Law Firms published in the Los Angeles Daily Journal and recently was named the number one law firm worldwide for global sourcing according to the Black Book of Outsourcing. Impressive; but then this isn’t the whole picture.

This year Pillsbury was also named to 2007 Working Mother/Flex-Time Lawyers 50 Best Law Firms for Women, as well as making it into the publication’s 100 Best Companies for working mothers. This year the law firm also earned 100 percent in the Corporate Equality Index released by the Human Rights Campaign Foundation, which measures companies' treatment of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender employees.

So how has Pillsbury managed to break away from its old image? About eight years ago, Mary Cranston and Marina Park became the first women to co-lead a top American law firm as chair and firm managing partner respectively (although the firm is now lead by Chair Jim Rishwain). That was also the time that Deborah Johnson – Chief Human Resources Officer at Pillsbury – joined the firm. After looking into some of the firm’s existing policies, “we set about turning the firm into a great one to work for, particularly for women and especially for working mothers,” says Johnson. “That’s when we adopted a number of new practices.”

This change wasn’t a one-off, and since then the firm has been fine-tuning its praxis. Last year, Pillsbury undertook a firm-wide survey of all partners and associates to find out what was important to them, in terms of part-time or flexible work arrangements. Their primary goal was to work out whether attorneys felt there was any stigma associated with working less than full-time, and if there was, what could be done about it. “We asked what the lawyers or attorneys thought best practices were in managing part-time or a flexible schedules, while still meeting the need of clients and, in the case of associates, the partners. It was a comprehensive survey, from which we gleaned so much great information which helped inform some of our current initiatives.”

After seeing the results, once again, Pillsbury decided some of their policies were out of date. “We made some additional changes and decided to use one of our largest practice sections as a pilot group for how flex-time/part-time best practices really worked. At the end of this year the plan is to roll out a set of best practices to guide practice section leaders in their efforts to better manage these arrangements.

“There are always challenges in managing flexible working,” Johnson says. “In some groups or offices there’s more openness and flexibility than in others. For instance, there was a period of time we were promoting telecommuting, and people were appalled by it – they thought it wouldn’t work. It has evolved over the years and is now generally accepted.” Because Pillsbury has so many offices in the US, telecommuting has also proved useful in greater inter-office collaboration. Johnson says the gradual change in the way people approach work and where they do their work has also helped gain acceptance for more nontraditional approaches.

The future recruiting drive

Pillsbury’s recognition by external entities like Working Mother for being a good place to work pays testament to the work they have done to improve the firm’s working environment. They have developed their recruiting materials for people they are trying to attract to the firm, communicating to them about firm life beyond the work that they do and the clients they serve. These materials focus on things like their pro bono work, community outreach and some of the special programs they run.

An example Johnson gives me is a “We have a special program for nursing mothers. ,” says Johnson, giving me an example. “When someone is coming back from maternity leave they often feel a little bit alienated and nervous about getting back into the swing of things. We work very closely with our returning mothers and provide a lot of special support to them.” This particular program was only started this year but has already been well received at the firm.

Johnson also tells me about Pillsbury’s talent development strategy. This has involved looking throughout the firm at how the recruiting process is working, who is being recruited, the successes and failures, what the mentoring programs are like and their effectiveness. “We’re looking at the entire spectrum; the lifecycle of an employee, if you will. We brought together a multidisciplinary team to discuss how to improve our recruiting efforts, mentoring programs, and to ensure we’re providing the kind of education and training that people really need.”

In terms of moving forward and fighting the talent shortage, the most exciting thing that Johnson points to in this development is at the back end of the employee lifecycle spectrum. “If we look over the last ten years, before we had some of our family friendly practices, we probably lost some attorneys we’d like to inspire to think of us again. As part of our alumni outreach we’re going to see if we can recapture some talent that got away” Developing an alumni outreach program in this way will be an excellent source of talent in these lean times. They know the talent is out there, they know the talent is good enough to work for them: now, they’ve just got to lure them it back. But with these policies in place, it shouldn’t be too long before those attorneys come knocking.

BIO: Deborah Johnson – Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP

Deborah Johnson is the chief Chief human Human resources Resources officer Officer for Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP. In addition to overseeing all HR-related functions, she is a member of Pillsbury's five-person executive committee, the firm's leadership body that establishes the firm's business and operational priorities, shapes the firm's direction and set policies such as those related to diversity and inclusion, which are then implemented by Pillsbury lawyers and staff as appropriate. Debbie has more than 20 years experience in law firm management, and holds an MBA from St. Mary's College. Prior to her law firm experience, she managed non-profit organizations, including those designed to divert adolescent offenders from the juvenile justice system.

This law firm at the holidays

Debbie Johnson. We do a couple of special things at Pillsbury for the holidays, and we start at Thanksgiving. We participate in “Second Harvest” where all our employees bring canned and packaged food into the firm and we engage in competition with other law firms in each of our major markets. The object is to see who can donate the greatest amount of food, so this is an activity we enter into as a group.

We also participate in the ABA Toys for Tots program. People bring in toys and make donations. In one of our offices, people don’t to go shopping to get Toys for Tots, but they’re inclined to give money so then we have a shopping spree.

In our DC office, for example, they adopt community organizations. For a number of years one of the organizations they adopted is called Sasha Bruce Youth Work. It’s an organization that provides services to adolescents who’ve run away from home or have been kicked out of their homes, so the office rallied around purchasing gifts for those young people and also supporting events to help them celebrate the holidays.

To us, the holidays are really about giving back to the community.

Environmentally friendly law

Pillsbury partners Mark Elliott, Jerone English, Michael Barr and Michael Steel scored a huge victory when they convinced a federal judge in Los Angeles to throw out rules created by the South Coast Air Quality Management District that were designed to regulate emissions from locomotives. US District Judge John F Walter agreed with Pillsbury's clients, the Association of American Railroads and Union Pacific Railroad Co, that federal laws preempted local rules and therefore the board lacked the authority to limit emissions.

Pillsbury also argued that using trains to transport goods and passengers actually helped cut down on emissions by taking high-polluting cars and trucks off of California highways and also helped reduce traffic congestion.

The Daily Journal also noted Pillsbury for its recently launched climate change and sustainability practice, of which four Southern California lawyers were members, including Mark Elliott and Christopher McNevin in Los Angeles and Richard Blaylock and Sue Hodges in San Diego.

Legacy

You might have guessed that Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP is the combination of several firms, resultant of large mergers over the last seven years. “Each of the legacy firms has a long tradition of giving back to the community,” says Johnson. “That was one of the common traditions we discovered during the merger process. This may be a little bit unusual, but we do have a corporate social responsibility program so the fact that we support individual employees’ activities outside of work is just an extension of what the firm does in terms of community outreach and volunteerism and so on. It’s just part of the core values of the firm.”

Health and wellness

HRM. The wellbeing of employees is obviously important to Pillsbury. Is this something that’s changed over the past decade in HR, in the opinions of companies, generally?

Debbie Johnson. I can’t speak to what other companies are doing; there are probably many companies way ahead of us in terms of focusing on employee health and wellbeing. But I can tell you what happened to us. As a collection of people, we experienced high claims, as a result of some pretty serious illnesses. When we looked at our claims experience, many illnesses were directly related to lifestyle: stress, not being in shape, being overweight. Obviously, we wanted to retain our talented people – so we embarked on a health improvement program.

It’s important for lots of reasons. People feel better when they are healthier. Also people spend so much time at work that you have to bring services (such as biometric testing) to the workplace so that employees can take advantage of them. I’m sure that lots of people have to-do lists that contain things like “see a nutritionist”, but they never get round to doing so. We bring nutritionists into the firm to conduct educational programs. I’m not sure that our motives are completely altruistic; it is in the Firm’s best interest to have healthy people.

HRM. So what initiatives – apart from the nutritionists – have has Pillsbury implemented?

DJ. One example is that we enable employees to do personal Health Risk Assessments, and then we have onsite biometric testing. Over 400 people in our firm participated this year, which was great. We also have inspired competitiveness around the firm, as a combination of our community outreach and getting healthier. We participate in the Race for the Cure, which is a breast cancer race and the AIDS walk. As a group, we promote activities that may take place on the weekends, sometimes they take place during the normal business hours, but that are fitness related.

HRM. You said that you find that your employees work better and are less likely to leave work if they are healthier. Do wellness programs have a quantifiable ROI?

DJ. They say that from the time you implement a wellness, wellbeing or better health program to the time you start seeing results is generally three to five years. We’ve had a concentrated effort for the last two and a half years. Right now is the time that our healthcare premiums are up for renewal, and the cost increase of our premiums is the lowest it’s been in six years. We think in part that’s due to the work we’re doing to promote good health in our firm. That’s the only measure that I can easily point to, and I have to tell you, it was a surprise. We had a great year in terms of few serious illnesses in our firm, and it was terrific. So is there a direct connection? I don’t know for sure, but I like to think so!


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